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Qualitative and Quantitative DataListen now (33 min) | Talking to other entrepreneurs made Michele realize that she hasn't talked about interplay of qualitative *and* qualitative data…
TinySeed!Listen now (30 min) | Colleen's company was accepted to TinySeed, which means she now gets to work on Refine full time. That means she can finally make…
Getting Into Public Speaking as a DeveloperListen now (38 min) | Michele chats with indie developer Benedicte Raae about getting into public speaking through streaming. Follow Benedicte on…

October 2022

Sick Leave for Indie Founders?Listen now (28 min) | Should indie founders take sick leave? Michele and Colleen discuss. A couple friends of this pod have launched their own shows for…
Competitive Advantage and Moats for Small SaaSes, Part 2Listen now (33 min) | Michele continues her chat with Summit founder Matt Wensing about ways indie SaaS founders can think about moats and competitive…
Talking Competitive Advantage and Moats for Small SaaSes, Part 1Listen now (52 min) | Michele chats with Summit founder Matt Wensing about intangible assets, switching costs, and network effects, and how they apply…
Refine Update with Aaron and ColleenListen now (33 min) | Aaron Francis, Colleen's co-founder, swings by to chat about Refine. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software…

September 2022

Super Pumped (aka The Saturday Edition)Listen now (36 min) | Four things Colleen is super pumped about... and one thing she's not. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software…
Sprinting a MarathonListen now (50 min) | Colleen and Michele both have a lot going on. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support…
Hairy Projects and Heat WavesListen now (30 min) | Michele's trying to figure out how to approach charging sales taxes, and Colleen finally pushes to prod. Huge thanks to all of our…
Distribution vs MarketingListen now (55 min) | Colleen's in go mode for Refine. Huge thanks to all of our listeners who’ve become Software Socialites and support our show! You…